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how to be a pilot?
08-04-2013, 04:37 PM
Post: #1
Hi my name is harry and im 18. i really like pilot ths job and want to be this job so much but i couldnt get a good result in spm. So i go to stuy foundation in engineering now and i dont know how to continues my pilot dream. Can any senior or who suggest what should i do the next? should i continues study and get a degree or finished foundation and go take cadet pilot? I heard many ppl and Mas ppl said nowadays pilot difficult to get a job? is it real?
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08-05-2013, 05:43 PM
Post: #2
Hi Harry,

There are quite a number of similar thread as yours in this forum.
Do a little bit of study and research in this forum. The answer is everywhere
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08-06-2013, 10:13 PM
Post: #3
yeah i did but i still cant get a clear answer. :/ can you or anybody tell me should i take the mechanical engineering degree or civil engineering which is i like more. Is it any matter i choose other engineering course that not really relate the engine...? O.o
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08-08-2013, 02:37 PM
Post: #4
Let me share my personal experience with u..i know people at ur age are really confusing about the future path..
I took business psychology in uni and joined the airasia cadet pilot this year..the interviewer asked me why u study psychology yet u go for piloting?i answered him because many aircrashes are not caused by mechanical or system fault but human error..through studying psychology i have a better understanding towards myself and better control of my emotion..
What i wanted to tell u is no matter how desperate u want to go for piloting,just go for ur second dream as alternate first..if u feel u will be happier to take up civil instead of mechanical then go ahead..i personally think that it is not what subjects u learn in the course,but what skills u learn throughout the course..if mechanical engineering u can tell the interviewer what skills that u learn in this course that can be applied to pilot career,such as analysis skill,troubleshooting skill..if civil engineering u can tell the interviewer that u r good in calculation and solving problems with creativity..coz i believe facing problems and solving problems is the issues that a civil engineer faces everyday..learn the skill n tell them u can apply it in cockpit then u will be fine..it does not really matter what education background u come from..just show ur greatest interest in aviation n do ur best!
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08-08-2013, 09:20 PM
Post: #5
(08-08-2013 02:37 PM)vincent24 Wrote:  Let me share my personal experience with u..i know people at ur age are really confusing about the future path..
I took business psychology in uni and joined the airasia cadet pilot this year..the interviewer asked me why u study psychology yet u go for piloting?i answered him because many aircrashes are not caused by mechanical or system fault but human error..through studying psychology i have a better understanding towards myself and better control of my emotion..
What i wanted to tell u is no matter how desperate u want to go for piloting,just go for ur second dream as alternate first..if u feel u will be happier to take up civil instead of mechanical then go ahead..i personally think that it is not what subjects u learn in the course,but what skills u learn throughout the course..if mechanical engineering u can tell the interviewer what skills that u learn in this course that can be applied to pilot career,such as analysis skill,troubleshooting skill..if civil engineering u can tell the interviewer that u r good in calculation and solving problems with creativity..coz i believe facing problems and solving problems is the issues that a civil engineer faces everyday..learn the skill n tell them u can apply it in cockpit then u will be fine..it does not really matter what education background u come from..just show ur greatest interest in aviation n do ur best!

Well said. This should answer once and for all.
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08-10-2013, 11:30 PM
Post: #6
it doesnt matter which course u study, they just want to see how u answer their question. just tell them you cant sit there and wait for intake to open.

they are hiring pilots, no engineers, u study civil or mechanical also wont change that fact.
I was a law student, a course which everyone feel unrelated to piloting, but I still managed to convince the interviewers and got the job.

my advice : now in Malaysia its 50/50 that you can become a pilot or not. the chances that you are going to work in other career is high, so choose a course that you really like apart from piloting, because most probably you will face this job in the future. Dont study a course for the sake of making yourself having an upper hand from the others because it doesnt work this way.

good luck to you.

"Flying might not be all plain sailing, but the fun of it is worth the price. " - Amelia Earhart (1898 - 1937)
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09-28-2013, 11:16 AM
Post: #7
Let me simplify things to those fresh out of SPM. There are 3 pathways for you to be a pilot.

1. Airline sponsored programme. Currently in Malaysia only AirAsia is offering such programme. U need good SPM results or anything higher. It doesnt matter if you are arts or science background. What matters more is your personality and for obvious reasons fairly good results in which ever field u were into. The airline pays for everything, you get some allowance during training, in return you sign a bond for 10-15yrs with salary deduction to repay the training cost.

2. Self-sponsored. In this case, as long you got the $$$$ and meet the minimum entry requirement, in 18 months or so, you join the que of 1000+ unemployed CPL/IR with frozen ATPL guys and girls awaiting their turn to get hired. The current trend practised regionally is you pay for your type rating and get paid 0 until you clear line training. Its call P2F (Pay to fly). It will basically cost you RM250-300k for your CPL/IR and additional RM75-100k for your type rating. Many Malaysians opted for this scheme and currently flying for most major airlines in Indonesia, Vietnam and Philippines.

3. Military/Air Force/Police/Fire Brigade. Here you join as an officer, and along the way internally apply for the flying training. There is no guarantee will end up being a pilot but its surely an option.

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11-08-2013, 11:14 AM
Post: #8
(09-28-2013 11:16 AM)m732 Wrote:  Let me simplify things to those fresh out of SPM. There are 3 pathways for you to be a pilot.

1. Airline sponsored programme. Currently in Malaysia only AirAsia is offering such programme. U need good SPM results or anything higher. It doesnt matter if you are arts or science background. What matters more is your personality and for obvious reasons fairly good results in which ever field u were into. The airline pays for everything, you get some allowance during training, in return you sign a bond for 10-15yrs with salary deduction to repay the training cost.

2. Self-sponsored. In this case, as long you got the $$$$ and meet the minimum entry requirement, in 18 months or so, you join the que of 1000+ unemployed CPL/IR with frozen ATPL guys and girls awaiting their turn to get hired. The current trend practised regionally is you pay for your type rating and get paid 0 until you clear line training. Its call P2F (Pay to fly). It will basically cost you RM250-300k for your CPL/IR and additional RM75-100k for your type rating. Many Malaysians opted for this scheme and currently flying for most major airlines in Indonesia, Vietnam and Philippines.

3. Military/Air Force/Police/Fire Brigade. Here you join as an officer, and along the way internally apply for the flying training. There is no guarantee will end up being a pilot but its surely an option.

well said bro
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11-10-2013, 06:53 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2013 06:57 PM by Mir_Mira.)
Post: #9
Hi Harry ^^

I'm sorry for being late but I wanna share some opinion of mine too. First of all congratulations for taking first step in what you're doing now. Foundation in engineering? Unsure about piloting?
Let me say, just do whatever you do now. Who says an engineering can't become a pilot. If you really want to become a pilot, keep the mindset. Some of our journey won't be pretty much smooth as we're not lucky to get to join cadet pilot thingee. It's okay Harry, if everyone has similar journey than it will super boring. lol.
Along the way you study, you might found an opening chance as you still very young. No need to rush. One step at a time. Ask yourself, do you really want to become a pilot? If you do, you'll get the answer sooner or later. Some pilot nowadays have other qualification. I know few pilots who are previously engineer and one even a doctor. See how different that is? the profession and such and by logic, of course they started their carrier when they are over 25 years old.
I can give you two example. I'm 26 now and I'm still heading toward my dream. My journey surely encountered lots of bumpy road and I face failures more than you can imagine. I almost give up in certain point but because it was what I want, the little strength in me telling me I shall never stop trying. At least, I know I'm working hard on it. I cried, failed, losing hope, lost, depressed... all that. Right now I even do the job I never though I do just to make sure my journey still in the right path. I'm doing a heavy job that force me tell myself I MUST KEEP HOLDING ON. Oh yeah, I have diploma in engineering and on the way to qualify as safety and health officer ( green book ). But why I stayed? doing the hardest job which most girl wouldn't even want to try. I did it in the name of ambition. At least I know when I become a pilot someday, I have engineering knowledge and even green book. That will set me apart from others ^^

Second example is Captain Cho Eunjong. She gained her pilot license when she's 29. Yes, she did multiple of job etc and finally work in USA and get her pilot license there but during that time, job wasn't open for her in her own country ( S.Korea ) so she stayed at USA and become an instructor. Collecting hours and such and she got an offer from China Airlines. Finally at the age of 41, she start working in Korean Air.

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You see Harry, I don't know if my ranting ( lol sorry ) is anwering you or not but I just want to say, just because you want to become a pilot doesn't mean you don't need to look at other option. Keep your ambition first but never let go the opportunity that comes. IF... IF someday when you still haven't finished the degree and suddenly you get the call for cadetship, than its your time to actually choose. We can't predict future but we can carve our path and keep walking on it. I pray for the best and seriously, you still young ^^

Again, ONE STEP AT A TIME alright bro.


Mira say peace~~~

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NEVER GIVE UPAngel
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11-10-2013, 07:18 PM
Post: #10
A path full of potholes must be traveled slowly, but there's no reason you can't finish the journey.
All the hardship will only makes us far better people.
Never give up man.

- We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope -
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